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I'm a Wiccan and a practicing witch,

So, as a matter of curiosity, what exactly do you practice?


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Restraint mostly  ::)

A little herbology, candle magick and the occasional sabbatical ritual circle with some interested parties. I sometimes do a little tarot as well.


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Restraint mostly  ::)

A little herbology, candle magick and the occasional sabbatical ritual circle with some interested parties. I sometimes do a little tarot as well.

Um.

what does herbology consist of?
and what magick arise from the candles (to what purpose and how does it work - DOES it work in your opinion?)
 (wtf!!) re sabbatical ritual circle?
and what does the tarot foresee? You read for yourself?


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Wow - so many questions.... I'll try answer best I can before I have to rush off to a meeting...

Herbology is the study and use of herbs in magickal rituals or in activities using herbs for the magickal or supernatural properties given them. This could include making bath or massage oils and potions to even using them in cooking, or in purification or protection spells. This is of course the short version.  ???

Candles are used in various colors to symbolize different energies for different purposes or uses - a variation of color magick. The energy in the flame is used towards energy workings in rituals or other magickal workings.

There are several times in the year which are significant to Wiccans (or pagans also) and these are called Sabbats - examples are Mabon and Samhain. Mostly they are tied to ancient beliefs about harvest, death and rebirth, renewal and so on. At these times, Wiccans hold solitary rituals to mark the event, or meet for a ritual - casting a circle around them - and then afterwards, celebrating with food and drink and socializing. Not terribly much different from church really in that respect, except there is no "minister" and nobody is in charge or telling anyone what to believe.

Tarot is something more complex to get into, and I haven't been doing that for very long - it's all a learning process - but suffice to say I find it fascinating and rewarding.

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Is all of this just a pastime or do you consider these things to be knowledge of at least some demonstrable value?  That would be “knowledge” as in “a justified, true belief that would remain both true and justified in somewhat variable circumstances.”

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Is all of this just a pastime or do you consider these things to be knowledge of at least some demonstrable value?  That would be “knowledge” as in “a justified, true belief that would remain both true and justified in somewhat variable circumstances.”

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Herbology is the study and use of herbs in magickal rituals or in activities using herbs for the magickal or supernatural properties given them. This could include making bath or massage oils and potions to even using them in cooking, or in purification or protection spells. This is of course the short version.  ???

So your basic homeopathy with some magick thrown in for good measure? How do you contain supernatural properties in order to add it to a mixture? What do you generally perscribe such potions for? Illness for example?

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Candles are used in various colors to symbolize different energies for different purposes or uses - a variation of color magick. The energy in the flame is used towards energy workings in rituals or other magickal workings.

Explain please? I understand the use of symbolism of colours, however, please explain the HOW and to WHAT PURPOSE (possibly give me some examples - I've got a flat head when it comes to these things)

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There are several times in the year which are significant to Wiccans (or pagans also) and these are called Sabbats - examples are Mabon and Samhain. Mostly they are tied to ancient beliefs about harvest, death and rebirth, renewal and so on. At these times, Wiccans hold solitary rituals to mark the event, or meet for a ritual - casting a circle around them - and then afterwards, celebrating with food and drink and socializing. Not terribly much different from church really in that respect, except there is no "minister" and nobody is in charge or telling anyone what to believe.
Sorry, but this just sounds like a load of hogwash to me. Why not just have a braai with all the trimmings and talk about the state of the garden?

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Tarot is something more complex to get into, and I haven't been doing that for very long - it's all a learning process - but suffice to say I find it fascinating and rewarding.

 WHY? What is fascinating (aside from the lovely graphics on the cards themselves) about it and why is it rewarding - in what sense CAN it be rewarding? What is the attraction to this, believing that a pack of cards can foresee/tell your future and guide you in your life is preposterous to say the least?

Do you believe in free will?


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… homeopathy with some magick thrown in for good measure…
Isn’t that a pleonasm?  Homoeopathy already involves several paranormal “effects” that are part and parcel of Aleister Crowley’s “magick”:  Banishing, Purification, Consecration, Invocation, Evocation, Eucharist and Divination.

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@ Mefiante: It's a learning experience. Wicca is an experiential religion. What I experience and learn allows me to evaluate what I want from the experience. Basically I get the opportunity to decide for myself what works for me and what doesn't, what to believe and what not to, and the best part is that nobody else gets to judge me for it.

@ ingwe: That debate was settled in the first part of the discussion on the other thread as far as I can tell.

@ Faerie: "How do you contain supernatural properties in order to add it to a mixture? What do you generally perscribe such potions for? Illness for example?" The way I think of it is the substances, herbs, etc contain symbolic properties and also energies - while you're creating the mixture, you also infuse it with your own energy - call it will or intent - in order to achieve the goal you are setting for the mixture. Actually, the more I get into this, the more it looks like a kind of "programing", and magick more like influencing or "hacking" the system.

"I understand the use of symbolism of colours, however, please explain the HOW and to WHAT PURPOSE (possibly give me some examples - I've got a flat head when it comes to these things)" Gold and green for example you would use in prosperity spells or to attract wealth, white is for protection and healing or for settling a dispute and bringing peace. Black is one that a lot of people misconstrue with black magick and "dark arts" - actually black is a "one size fits all" because it is a mix of all other colors, so can be used for any purpose.

"Sorry, but this just sounds like a load of hogwash to me. Why not just have a braai with all the trimmings and talk about the state of the garden?" Belief is subjective, you don't have to like it anymore than you might agree with some folks standing in church waving their little hands in the air. Some folks see religion as chicken soup for the soul - well, some folks like their soup with croutons, others with noodles. Some like tomato, others butternut. It would be a boring old world if we all just stuck to hearty beef now wouldn't it? ;)

"why is it rewarding - in what sense CAN it be rewarding? What is the attraction to this, believing that a pack of cards can foresee/tell your future and guide you in your life is preposterous to say the least?" - It's rewarding because it helps me find insight into my past, current and future situations. Often I have made decisions based on this insight and that has been the reward. Yes, I believe in free will - which is why readings are subjective. If for example you are told you will be involved in a fight at a party within the next month or so, then whatever you do after the reading may change this scenario and you can avoid it.

@ Mefiante: Yup ;P

There is plenty of info on Wicca and magick online... I'm not exactly an encyclopedia on it... yet ;)


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It's rewarding because it helps me find insight into my past, current and future situations. Often I have made decisions based on this insight and that has been the reward. Yes, I believe in free will - which is why readings are subjective. If for example you are told you will be involved in a fight at a party within the next month or so, then whatever you do after the reading may change this scenario and you can avoid it.

 (wtf!!)

*facedesk*

Why not just use logic, rationality, and your own common sense? Why do you "NEED" something or 'SOMEONE" to guide/provide insight - surely you're capable of doing this by and for yourself?


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Hey, it works for me ;)

Not a good enough answer. 

Anyways, I'll leave you on your floating boat.

Thanks for the info.