@ GGG:
On the contrary, I am quite calm At the time of the first post I made I was a little hot under the collar, I admit.
“at the end of the day, your body will forever need hormones to stay ‘female’.” - Um, no. Boobs don’t disappear if you stop hormones - and altered body parts don’t suddenly “grow back”. If you choose to continue hormones after initial feminization/masculinization and surgery it is for reasons of health - in order to prevent the onset of premature aging, heart disease, various cancers, and osteoporosis.
And why the ‘’ around female? I’m sorry if you think I’m “touchy”. It may seem like nit-picking to you, but these all seem like a lack of acceptance of trans people in their true gender to me. It might of course just be a lack of understanding, but here we are.
“dont just throw links at us, nobody has got time to access them all.” The links are there for you to read up and get educated on the topic. If you have time to post here then you have time to read. What does it say about people who are offered facts and enlightenment, and make excuses to not make use of it? 'Nuff said. And no, I’m still quite calm
@ Mefiante:
The facts presented in my argument thus far stand, regardless of how you may try to paint me as being “emotional” or even hysterical.
@ Boogiemonster:
You seem obsessed with pots and kettles…
I’ve heard of the strawman theory… perhaps next you are going to ask me how to bake a zinkeldok?
What we have here appears to be a failure to communicate. Either both of us are not saying what we mean, or neither of us is interpreting the other’s words correctly.
Firstly - “The transexuals who killed themselves were more emotionally hurt than the straights who also killed themselves…”. I NEVER SAID THAT. What I said was “some instances of bullying are worse than others.” - meaning that there is a difference between someone being picked on with name-calling and a little prank or two - and getting beaten up on the playground or after school on a daily basis. I should think that is self-explanatory, regardless of who the victim is.
Second - “Restrictive system?! Is this 1984? I would never restrict people rights to freedom of speech.” - Where a child or individual is forced into a mold that goes against their nature in such a way as to degrade their sense of self-worth I would call it restrictive. A girl being forced to wear boys clothes and to be segregated and treated like a boy, or punished for effeminate behavior is an apt example. I would say this doesn’t fall under the right to freedom of speech, but under freedom of expression, and the right to dignity. Btw, have you actually read 1984?
Oh and by the way - the comment of “special treatment” was made by boogiemonster. You are Boogiemonster, aren’t you? You did say “…instead of pretending the problem is unique to transsexuals only, and then pleading for special treatment and calling it equality.” Oops.
I never tried to make a case that there is a trend of transgender suicides among school children resulting from homophobic/transphobic bullying. What I did was indicate that there IS a trend of LGBTI suicides among school children resulting from homophobic/transphobic bullying. There is no denying that. As a minor detail, the “t” in LGBTI stands for transgender.
I also tried to point out to you, apparently without success, that even if it is only two incidents of transgender suicide per year, they are every bit as significant as the others - and that it is still worth the effort to take steps to prevent these deaths.
“Why pinch me but, you were just suggesting the EXACT opposite in this very post!” - PINCH. Hello pot, this is the kettle calling
@ Faerie:
Why does everyone assume that I’m emotional? Hysterical? I’m perfectly calm, I assure you. If I were emotional it would be anger - and it would be because of the astounding level of ignorance present here. My desire is to set the record straight and to educate those who appear to be sorely in need of it, and making stupid remarks out of that lack of education.
“Lifestyle choice” - what exactly do you understand by the word lifestyle? Is it a lifestyle to be straight or cisgender? Or is it nature? Is it really a choice to accept what you are and have no control over being? What kind of choice is that? If you are told you have cancer and you choose to deny it, will you still die from that cancer? Or will you miraculously somehow be made cancer-free because of your denial? Well, I can tell you the odds on that one.
Let me ask you - do you live a straight lifestyle? When did you choose to be straight? Did you make a conscious choice to be a straight masculine man or straight feminine woman? Or were you always just that way? Do you see the point I am trying to make?
Could you enlighten me as to what a transgender lifestyle is? What is a “gay lifestyle” - or a “straight lifestyle” for that matter? I’ve been this way all my life and I have to say, I don’t have a clue.
You probably didn’t realize it before, but can you see now why the term “lifestyle choice” is derogatory to the circumstances of Pink folks? Can you understand now why we see it as a slap in the face?
And no, I am not hysterical, I am quite calm - in fact I’m sitting here sipping a glass of fresh orange juice.
You’re right, it’s not an easy road to take, especially when you realize there is no other road to take that doesn’t lead to a cliff-top, you have no map, no compass, and there is no way back.
Blessings,
Christina